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A kind and realistic perspective on the situation. I also don't believe someone as intelligent as Ayaan could really delude herself into such nonsense. I think the desperation arising from the threat of Islamism has led her down this path which she will not be able to honestly keep up.

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In defense of her choice, I find it interesting how the belief in nothing has an evangelism in its own right. I find it ironic to evangelize nothingness. I mean, science is great, however, it’s a tool.

If logic is the king, then see where that takes you. Logic is only so because of the context in which it exists.

Nuclear weapons and gas chambers are as a result of logic and physics. Are we going to blame logic for allowing to be used to serve those means? No, because logic is a tool, not an ideology. It’ll always be ideology using logic, never the other way around.

What is Richard Dawkins proposing as a fix to the problem she clearly stated?

She feels like a life with no meaning and purpose is inherently self destructive.

Atheism is not a competitor to Christianity.

It’s nothingness. It always has and always will be something vs nothing. 0 and 1. True or False. Even science bends to that rule, a rule it can’t explain the origins of.

My question to Richard Dawkins, if you’re something, why is it that you believe so much in nothing?

Maybe Christianity is wrong, but maybe it’s on a different plane.

Maybe you’ll be throwing wrenches at your feelings for the rest of your life. It’s your choice, as it is hers.

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You seem to have assumed that if one is an atheist one has nothing else.

That’s so far from reality as to be absurd.

All an atheist lacks is a belief in supernatural deities. That lack is liberating.

All other sources of wonder, awe and pleasure remain in full measure and life becomes more precious when it’s almost certainly the only shot at conscious existence humans have.

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Hey, absurdity isn’t as bad as people make it out to be.

Russell’s conjugation is in full force here. You say supernatural deities, Christian’s say Jesus, and agnostics could say God.

I sweat, she glows, he perspires.

All other sources of uncertainty, shock, and debauchery remain in full measure, and breathing becomes more scarce when it’s the only shot at thinking homo-sapiens have.

You see, when I relegate your statement through Russell’s conjugation it takes the soul out of what you write.

I’m arguing that atheism does that to people’s ideals, or the center of those ideals, God. It does nothing but distill their foundation.

It’s like complaining, but never offering better suggestions. People will always want God, for better or for worse.

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If you’re not an atheist why are you presuming to tell me about my ‘soulless’ life?

And what, im precise detail, is a soul?

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HOW DOES A JEW GET TO HEAVEN FROM DRY-HUMPING THE WAILING WALL LIKE MILEY CYRUS???

GAYS FOR PALESTINE = ALLAH FAGBAR!

MODERATE MUSLIM = OUT OF BULLETS

NO MORE JEWS = NO MORE WAR

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The only differences between kosher and halal are . . . #1...in kosher slaughter, the rabbi must fellatiate all the male animals, this has a calming effect... for the rabbi... #2...in halal slaughter, the imam must lick the anus of the animal, this makes the imam slightly more agitated.

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"A man can have sex with animals such as sheeps, cows, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village; however, selling the meat to the next door village should be fine." — Ayatollah Khomeini, Tahrirolvasyleh, vol. 4, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990

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If the Israelis are “God’s chosen people,” as they say, then God will protect them and doesn’t need the United States to . . . their Golden Calf has Grown up to be a hollow Bronze Bull . . .

It was the Jews who gave the communists their first atomic bomb . . . so, any rational solution to Islam would include a final solution to the Jewish question as well . . . If the Iranians nuke Israel, the Palestinian filth also dies in the fallout . . . peace at last . . . karma is a bitch.

We Can't Afford Healthcare for American Children Because We Keep Bombing Everyone Else's for the Love of Jesus and Israel . . . https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/we-cant-afford-healthcare-for-american

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Judeo-messianism has been spreading its poisonous message among us for nearly two thousand years. Democratic and communist universalisms are more recent, but they have only reinforced the old Jewish narrative. They are the same ideals.

The transnational, transracial, transsexual, transcultural ideals that these ideologies preach to us (beyond peoples, races, cultures) and which are the daily sustenance of our schools, in our media, in our popular culture, at our universities, and on our streets, have ended up reducing our biosymbolic identity and ethnic pride to their minimal expression.

Jewish bankers flooded Europe with Muslims and America with third-world garbage. Exile as punishment for those who preach sedition should be reinstated within the legal framework of the West . . . Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are death cults originating in the Middle East and totally alien to Europe and its peoples.

One sometimes wonders why the European left gets along so well with Muslims. Why does an often overtly anti-religious movement take the side of a fierce religiosity that seems to oppose almost everything the left has always claimed to stand for? Part of the explanation lies in the fact that Islam and Marxism have a common ideological root: Judaism.

No country is leading its own course in this invasion because it is a UN-led political agenda driven by the Jews and their puppets (politicians). Most people just don't know or understand that this is a political agenda. However, some manage to understand that politicians are deliberately working to import Muslims and replace people, but that's it, they are like a computer that can't work because the program doesn't allow it.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/pardonne-mon-francais-va-te-faire

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Give me a detailed explanation of the number one and exactly what it is and then I’ll attempt to describe the soul.

The number one doesn’t technically exist. The idea of it is a staple in mathematics, though.

It’s immaterial, not empirical. I can’t tell you what it is, but somehow I know what it is not.

I never said you were soulless.. I took the soul out of what you wrote. I was saying precisely the opposite, you do have a soul. I can tell.

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Judeo-messianism has been spreading its poisonous message among us for nearly two thousand years. Democratic and communist universalisms are more recent, but they have only reinforced the old Jewish narrative. They are the same ideals.

The transnational, transracial, transsexual, transcultural ideals that these ideologies preach to us (beyond peoples, races, cultures) and which are the daily sustenance of our schools, in our media, in our popular culture, at our universities, and on our streets, have ended up reducing our biosymbolic identity and ethnic pride to their minimal expression.

Jewish bankers flooded Europe with Muslims and America with third-world garbage. Exile as punishment for those who preach sedition should be reinstated within the legal framework of the West . . . Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are death cults originating in the Middle East and totally alien to Europe and its peoples.

One sometimes wonders why the European left gets along so well with Muslims. Why does an often overtly anti-religious movement take the side of a fierce religiosity that seems to oppose almost everything the left has always claimed to stand for? Part of the explanation lies in the fact that Islam and Marxism have a common ideological root: Judaism.

No country is leading its own course in this invasion because it is a UN-led political agenda driven by the Jews and their puppets (politicians). Most people just don't know or understand that this is a political agenda. However, some manage to understand that politicians are deliberately working to import Muslims and replace people, but that's it, they are like a computer that can't work because the program doesn't allow it.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/pardonne-mon-francais-va-te-faire

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Not playing that game. You’re burden-shifting.

You say you can tell I have a soul.

How?

What matter is it comprised of?

What — since all my thoughts and emotions emanate from my brain — is its purpose?

Brains die when they’re no longer maintained by the rest of the physical body.

If a soul lives in the body does it die when the body dies?

If not how does a soul survive death?

If it doesn’t live in the body, where is it?

Why can no one detect or measure it?

The claim that souls exist is an extraordinary one and thus requires extraordinary evidence.

Just “I know it” is not gonna fly.

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Nov 21, 2023·edited Nov 21, 2023

@ Jacob

My God...... that is complete gibberish! You're using vocabulary that you clearly don't understand. Deepak would be jealous of that large helping of word salad that you dished out.

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Judeo-messianism has been spreading its poisonous message among us for nearly two thousand years. Democratic and communist universalisms are more recent, but they have only reinforced the old Jewish narrative. They are the same ideals.

The transnational, transracial, transsexual, transcultural ideals that these ideologies preach to us (beyond peoples, races, cultures) and which are the daily sustenance of our schools, in our media, in our popular culture, at our universities, and on our streets, have ended up reducing our biosymbolic identity and ethnic pride to their minimal expression.

Jewish bankers flooded Europe with Muslims and America with third-world garbage. Exile as punishment for those who preach sedition should be reinstated within the legal framework of the West . . . Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are death cults originating in the Middle East and totally alien to Europe and its peoples.

One sometimes wonders why the European left gets along so well with Muslims. Why does an often overtly anti-religious movement take the side of a fierce religiosity that seems to oppose almost everything the left has always claimed to stand for? Part of the explanation lies in the fact that Islam and Marxism have a common ideological root: Judaism.

No country is leading its own course in this invasion because it is a UN-led political agenda driven by the Jews and their puppets (politicians). Most people just don't know or understand that this is a political agenda. However, some manage to understand that politicians are deliberately working to import Muslims and replace people, but that's it, they are like a computer that can't work because the program doesn't allow it.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/pardonne-mon-francais-va-te-faire

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Thanks Adam. Always good to hear from you.

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HOW DOES A JEW GET TO HEAVEN FROM DRY-HUMPING THE WAILING WALL LIKE MILEY CYRUS???

GAYS FOR PALESTINE = ALLAH FAGBAR!

Miley Cyrus is a Kikesucking Zionist Ass-Whore . . . https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/miley-cyrus-is-a-kikesucking-zionist

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The only differences between kosher and halal are . . . #1...in kosher slaughter, the rabbi must fellatiate all the male animals, this has a calming effect... for the rabbi... #2...in halal slaughter, the imam must lick the anus of the animal, this makes the imam slightly more agitated.

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"A man can have sex with animals such as sheeps, cows, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village; however, selling the meat to the next door village should be fine." — Ayatollah Khomeini, Tahrirolvasyleh, vol. 4, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990

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If the Israelis are “God’s chosen people,” as they say, then God will protect them and doesn’t need the United States to . . . their Golden Calf has Grown up to be a hollow Bronze Bull . . .

It was the Jews who gave the communists their first atomic bomb . . . so, any rational solution to Islam would include a final solution to the Jewish question as well . . . If the Iranians nuke Israel, the Palestinian filth also dies in the fallout . . . peace at last . . . karma is a bitch.

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HOW DOES A JEW GET TO HEAVEN FROM DRY-HUMPING THE WAILING WALL LIKE MILEY CYRUS???

GAYS FOR PALESTINE = ALLAH FAGBAR!

Miley Cyrus is a Kikesucking Zionist Ass-Whore . . . https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/miley-cyrus-is-a-kikesucking-zionist

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The only differences between kosher and halal are . . . #1...in kosher slaughter, the rabbi must fellatiate all the male animals, this has a calming effect... for the rabbi... #2...in halal slaughter, the imam must lick the anus of the animal, this makes the imam slightly more agitated.

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"A man can have sex with animals such as sheeps, cows, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village; however, selling the meat to the next door village should be fine." — Ayatollah Khomeini, Tahrirolvasyleh, vol. 4, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990

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If the Israelis are “God’s chosen people,” as they say, then God will protect them and doesn’t need the United States to . . . their Golden Calf has Grown up to be a hollow Bronze Bull . . .

It was the Jews who gave the communists their first atomic bomb . . . so, any rational solution to Islam would include a final solution to the Jewish question as well . . . If the Iranians nuke Israel, the Palestinian filth also dies in the fallout . . . peace at last . . . karma is a bitch.

We Can't Afford Healthcare for American Children Because We Keep Bombing Everyone Else's for the Love of Jesus and Israel . . . https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/we-cant-afford-healthcare-for-american

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Tell me you don’t comprehend atheism without telling me you don’t comprehend atheism.

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Pardonne mon français . . . Je suis obligé d'écrire dans plusieurs langues parce que : 1. La plupart des gens aux États-Unis ont subi un lavage de cerveau leur faisant croire que les Juifs sont leur salut ; et 2., leur anglais est de la merde et ils ne peuvent pas rester silencieux assez longtemps pour entendre ou voir ce qui se passe évidemment autour d'eux . . . Le judéo-messianisme répand parmi nous son message empoisonné depuis près de deux mille ans. Les universalismes démocratique et communiste sont plus récents, mais ils n’ont fait que renforcer le vieux récit juif. Ce sont les mêmes idéaux.

Les idéaux transnationaux, transraciaux, transsexuels, transculturels que ces idéologies nous prêchent (au-delà des peuples, des races, des cultures) et qui sont le subsistance quotidienne de nos écoles, dans nos médias, dans notre culture populaire, à nos universités, et sur nos rues, ont fini par réduire notre identité biosymbolique et notre fierté ethnique à leur expression minimale.

Les banquiers juifs ont inondé l’Europe de musulmans et l’Amérique de déchets du tiers-monde . . . L'exil comme punition pour ceux qui prêchent la sédition devrait être rétabli dans le cadre juridique de l'Occident . . . Le judaïsme, le christianisme, et l’islam sont des cultes de mort originaires du Moyen-Orient et totalement étrangers à l’Europe et à ses peuples.

On se demande parfois pourquoi la gauche européenne s’entend si bien avec les musulmans. Pourquoi un mouvement souvent ouvertement antireligieux prend-il le parti d’une religiosité farouche qui semble s’opposer à presque tout ce que la gauche a toujours prétendu défendre ? Une partie de l’explication réside dans le fait que l’Islam et le marxisme ont une racine idéologique commune : le judaïsme.

Don Rumsfeld avait raison lorsqu’il disait : «L’Europe s’est décalé sur son axe», c’est le mauvais côté qui a gagné la Seconde Guerre mondiale, et cela devient chaque jour plus clair . . . Qu’a fait l’OTAN pour défendre l’Europe? Absolument rien . . . Mes ennemis ne sont pas à Moscou, à Damas, à Téhéran, à Riyad ou dans quelque croque-mitaine teutonique éthéré, mes ennemis sont à Washington, Bruxelles et Tel Aviv.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/pardonne-mon-francais-va-te-faire

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“Oh how fond they are of the book of Esther, which is so beautifully attuned to their bloodthirsty, vengeful, murderous yearning and hope.” — Martin Luther

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/oh-how-fond-they-are-of-the-book

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If the Israelis are “God’s chosen people,” as they say, then God will protect them and doesn’t need the United States to . . . their Golden Calf has Grown up to be a hollow Bronze Bull . . .

It was the Jews who gave the communists their first atomic bomb . . . so, any rational solution to Islam would include a final solution to the Jewish question as well . . . If the Iranians nuke Israel, the Palestinian filth also dies in the fallout . . . peace at last . . . karma is a bitch . . .

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We Can't Afford Healthcare for American Children Because We Keep Bombing Everyone Else's for the Love of Jesus and Israel . . .

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/we-cant-afford-healthcare-for-american

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The only differences between kosher and halal are . . . #1...in kosher slaughter, the rabbi must fellatiate all the male animals, this has a calming effect... for the rabbi... #2...in halal slaughter, the imam must lick the anus of the animal, this makes the imam slightly more agitated . . . https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/miley-cyrus-is-a-kikesucking-zionist

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I’ve no idea what you mean .. that I “throw wrenches” at my feelings? I am not a tortured soul for you to try to save or convert OK? Let people believe whatever they want to believe so long as their ideology doesn’t either cause harm or get special treatment. And in return I reserve the right to live my perfectly decent life without religious belief. I do not evangelise, I am not trying to make you give up whatever it is you believe, and you don’t need to try and convince me that your worldview is better. I’m happy with mine. Although of course it is your right to not like my point of view, my being atheist does not make me the amoral nihilistic monster you appear to think that ipso facto I must be. And you’ll just have to take my word for that!

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Logic is a tool of reason, and reason more broadly allows you to discover for yourself what is true, and decide how you’re going to derive the most meaning from your life. That’s not a small thing - it’s a hugely liberating power that distinguishes humans from other animals, and gives those who choose to exercise it near infinite choices. It doesn’t ensure I’m going to make a good choice, but it allows you to make that choice without deferral to a mystic authority.

Just like owning a car allows me to get quicker and more efficiently to a desirable destination. It doesn’t guarantee I’m going to always go somewhere good. However if I don’t like where I end up I can then reassess and choose something else next time. That’s infinitely better than getting on a random bus being driven by someone else and hoping I’ll like where they take me.

I think those who are religious and see nothing but a ‘void’ in atheism are essentially projecting their own weakness. They need that authority because they’d be scared of the same freedom themselves, so assume anyone without that authority must have nothing.

I’ve read Ayaan’s books. She was, and perhaps still is a great and courageous women for being able to reject the horrors of her intensely religious upbringing, at least enough to get out of there and find something better in a civilised country. But it would seem some deep and negative impacts on her psyche remain, and these have now risen to the surface.

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That’s so dumb

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The fundamental mistake that some critics of atheism make is that it is a “belief in nothing”. This is a complete misunderstanding of what atheism is. A-theism is a state of non-belief. There can be no evangelism in non-belief, because there is nothing to evangelise about. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I make no claims.

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Nov 23, 2023·edited Nov 23, 2023

This whole thing is fraught with inconsistency.

If you non-believe, then what exactly do you non-believe?

I non-agree.

I just don’t agree, but it doesn’t mean I don’t agree with anything, it just means I non-agree..

Then why is Richard Dawkins evangelizing non-belief? That’s what the essay is about, he’s attempting at converting her, or non-converting her, if you want to play the language game.

I just think there’s a built in error code in atheism.

I don’t believe in Santa, so much so that I don't give it weight. I’m apathetic to that fact, it’s neither here nor there.

I don’t start a non-believing Santa club

It’s like a girlfriend that says she hates you, and could care less about you when you break up. You know it’s not true, but the second she doesn’t mind explaining or communicating then you know it’s over.

I just think that atheists are mad at God, or they think God hates them. Or they don’t agree with the current description of God, but hold it dear enough to be magnetized still, in some weird sense.

But wouldn’t dare admit it..

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We Can't Afford Healthcare for American Children Because We Keep Bombing Everyone Else's for the Love of Jesus and Israel . . .

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/we-cant-afford-healthcare-for-american

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I don’t believe in the thing people call god. Why is that such an affront to you?

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We Can't Afford Healthcare for American Children Because We Keep Bombing Everyone Else's for the Love of Jesus and Israel . . .

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/we-cant-afford-healthcare-for-american

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So you disagree with someone having an affront to what someone else believes?

Perfect, then we’re in agreement.

I don’t agree with Richard Dawkins either, so we’re on the same team.

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We Can't Afford Healthcare for American Children Because We Keep Bombing Everyone Else's for the Love of Jesus and Israel . . .

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/we-cant-afford-healthcare-for-american

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I don’t disagree with that at all. It’s quite clear that you are indeed affronted by my worldview because you are trying so hard to convince me otherwise. I have my own worldview - you have yours.

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No, but if that’s your argument then you should be arguing Richard Dawkins for doing the same exact thing, Tom.

I agree that changing minds is a fool’s errand. Changing someone’s heart is the way to go, and I don’t see any heart in atheism.

The importance of “being special” was ever a topic of this conversation.

If I shout “I’m not gay” at a hash brown convention in Des Moines, Iowa, then there’s a good chance I may be a little bit homosexual. After all, we were talking about crispy hash-browns.

Don’t worry Tom, you’re a smart guy and you are special too.

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Apologist assumes there’s something Christians should be sorry for. Ad hominem’s disqualify you, Tom. This isn’t Facebook. Argue the idea, not the person if you want to learn, but maybe you don’t..

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As always; spot on Richard. Spot on.

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Au contraire . . . Pardonne mon français . . . Je suis obligé d'écrire dans plusieurs langues parce que : 1. La plupart des gens aux États-Unis ont subi un lavage de cerveau leur faisant croire que les Juifs sont leur salut ; et 2., leur anglais est de la merde et ils ne peuvent pas rester silencieux assez longtemps pour entendre ou voir ce qui se passe évidemment autour d'eux . . . Le judéo-messianisme répand parmi nous son message empoisonné depuis près de deux mille ans. Les universalismes démocratique et communiste sont plus récents, mais ils n’ont fait que renforcer le vieux récit juif. Ce sont les mêmes idéaux.

Les idéaux transnationaux, transraciaux, transsexuels, transculturels que ces idéologies nous prêchent (au-delà des peuples, des races, des cultures) et qui sont le subsistance quotidienne de nos écoles, dans nos médias, dans notre culture populaire, à nos universités, et sur nos rues, ont fini par réduire notre identité biosymbolique et notre fierté ethnique à leur expression minimale.

Les banquiers juifs ont inondé l’Europe de musulmans et l’Amérique de déchets du tiers-monde . . . L'exil comme punition pour ceux qui prêchent la sédition devrait être rétabli dans le cadre juridique de l'Occident . . . Le judaïsme, le christianisme, et l’islam sont des cultes de mort originaires du Moyen-Orient et totalement étrangers à l’Europe et à ses peuples.

On se demande parfois pourquoi la gauche européenne s’entend si bien avec les musulmans. Pourquoi un mouvement souvent ouvertement antireligieux prend-il le parti d’une religiosité farouche qui semble s’opposer à presque tout ce que la gauche a toujours prétendu défendre ? Une partie de l’explication réside dans le fait que l’Islam et le marxisme ont une racine idéologique commune : le judaïsme.

Don Rumsfeld avait raison lorsqu’il disait : «L’Europe s’est décalé sur son axe», c’est le mauvais côté qui a gagné la Seconde Guerre mondiale, et cela devient chaque jour plus clair . . . Qu’a fait l’OTAN pour défendre l’Europe? Absolument rien . . . Mes ennemis ne sont pas à Moscou, à Damas, à Téhéran, à Riyad ou dans quelque croque-mitaine teutonique éthéré, mes ennemis sont à Washington, Bruxelles et Tel Aviv.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/pardonne-mon-francais-va-te-faire

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“Oh how fond they are of the book of Esther, which is so beautifully attuned to their bloodthirsty, vengeful, murderous yearning and hope.” — Martin Luther

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/oh-how-fond-they-are-of-the-book

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We Can't Afford Healthcare for American Children Because We Keep Bombing Everyone Else's for the Love of Jesus and Israel . . .

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/we-cant-afford-healthcare-for-american

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Strange, off-putting letter. Why discourage anyone from exploring their beliefs? And why speak for someone else about such personal matters?

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Exploring something isn't the same as declaring one's religion, this is actually the end of exploration. While religion is (and should be) a personal matter, Ayaan herself spoke publicly about it which means she is comfortable with people discussing it. If she told Richard in a private conversation that she is now a Christian, and he went ahead and wrote a public letter criticizing her, that would be indeed off-putting.

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You make valid points. Yet, there was still something about the letter that seemed mean-spirited, or at least uncharitable. Perhaps I sensed in his letter the reaction of an atheist "cult" leader who was upset that someone had left his fold.

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I didn't get that impression at all. For one thing, he's not a cult leader, and he has no fold. Cults require beliefs, which atheism by definition doesn't have. My reaction to her declaration was pretty similar to his. I don't believe that she "believes". But I think that those without that kind of religious belief sometimes wish they did, when reality gets a bit overwhelming.

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I agree that he is not a cult leader. I just sensed that the letter was something that a cult leader might have written.

I disagree with your statement that atheism does not have a belief. In fact, it is a belief more astonishing than a belief in a higher power, because you cannot disprove the existence of a higher power. The most intellectually sound position about a god is "I don't know."

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Au contraire . . . Le judéo-messianisme répand parmi nous son message empoisonné depuis près de deux mille ans. Les universalismes démocratique et communiste sont plus récents, mais ils n’ont fait que renforcer le vieux récit juif. Ce sont les mêmes idéaux.

Les idéaux transnationaux, transraciaux, transsexuels, transculturels que ces idéologies nous prêchent (au-delà des peuples, des races, des cultures) et qui sont le subsistance quotidienne de nos écoles, dans nos médias, dans notre culture populaire, à nos universités, et sur nos rues, ont fini par réduire notre identité biosymbolique et notre fierté ethnique à leur expression minimale.

Les banquiers juifs ont inondé l’Europe de musulmans et l’Amérique de déchets du tiers-monde . . . L'exil comme punition pour ceux qui prêchent la sédition devrait être rétabli dans le cadre juridique de l'Occident . . . Le judaïsme, le christianisme, et l’islam sont des cultes de mort originaires du Moyen-Orient et totalement étrangers à l’Europe et à ses peuples.

On se demande parfois pourquoi la gauche européenne s’entend si bien avec les musulmans. Pourquoi un mouvement souvent ouvertement antireligieux prend-il le parti d’une religiosité farouche qui semble s’opposer à presque tout ce que la gauche a toujours prétendu défendre ? Une partie de l’explication réside dans le fait que l’Islam et le marxisme ont une racine idéologique commune : le judaïsme.

Don Rumsfeld avait raison lorsqu’il disait : «L’Europe s’est décalé sur son axe», c’est le mauvais côté qui a gagné la Seconde Guerre mondiale, et cela devient chaque jour plus clair . . . Qu’a fait l’OTAN pour défendre l’Europe? Absolument rien . . . Mes ennemis ne sont pas à Moscou, à Damas, à Téhéran, à Riyad ou dans quelque croque-mitaine teutonique éthéré, mes ennemis sont à Washington, Bruxelles et Tel Aviv . . . Va te faire foutre toi et ton dieu juif.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/pardonne-mon-francais-va-te-faire

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Of course. No one knows. But some people believe anyway. My position is I don’t ‘believe’ it. I don’t have to disprove anything because I make no claims.

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The United States government has become a wholly owned subsidiary of the American Israeli Political Action Committee.

Nobody is going to fight a war for Biden, he is dumber than Bush . . . Nobody is going to fight a war for that kikesucking Zionist ass-whore Nikki Haley . . .

The fat, bulbous curry nigger, U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, was telling everyone how the US Army is full of bad racist white men, and now the Army is doing ads begging for more young white men?

What happened?

Even with a full-on declaration of war from Congress, and even if Gavin Jewsome could be cheated in by ZOG somehow, with Globohomo brigades going door-to-door looking to impress white American children into military service, they will be met with armed, well-trained opposition.

White people are done fighting wars for these kikesucking Zionist ass-whores . . . With the borders of the US and Europe wide open, open warfare at home is a certainty if foreign wars are declared.

Get ready for it, the fat old fags in power are in no shape to fight a war.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/oh-how-fond-they-are-of-the-book

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The United States government has become a wholly owned subsidiary of the American Israeli Political Action Committee.

Nobody is going to fight a war for Biden, he is dumber than Bush . . . Nobody is going to fight a war for that kikesucking Zionist ass-whore Nikki Haley . . .

The fat, bulbous curry nigger, U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, was telling everyone how the US Army is full of bad racist white men, and now the Army is doing ads begging for more young white men?

What happened?

Even with a full-on declaration of war from Congress, and even if Gavin Jewsome could be cheated in by ZOG somehow, with Globohomo brigades going door-to-door looking to impress white American children into military service, they will be met with armed, well-trained opposition.

White people are done fighting wars for these kikesucking Zionist ass-whores . . . With the borders of the US and Europe wide open, open warfare at home is a certainty if foreign wars are declared.

Get ready for it, the fat old fags in power are in no shape to fight a war.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/oh-how-fond-they-are-of-the-book

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Correct. Ayaan will not be accepted by Christians if she doesn’t actually come to believe. But worse than this, her idea that Christian dominance is needed to win the “civilizational war” is backwards. In fact, it’s the very thing that could cause us to lose it. I have an essay today in Reality’s Last Stand speaking to this point: https://www.realityslaststand.com/p/c6250196-a8c1-43aa-81e4-d4552eb680c5

An excerpt: “While far-leftism may be a disproportionately atheistic movement, if Christianity is supposed to be a bulwark against it, it’s historically done a terrible job. The last census conducted in the Russian Empire before the Russian Revolution showed 82.3 percent identifying as various types of Christian (with almost all of the remaining being Russia’s Muslim and Jewish minorities), far higher than the 63 percent in the United States today. ... The allegation that far-leftism arises in secular nations because people need to find something to fill the god-hole simply isn’t true. On the contrary, far-leftism predominantly arises in Christian nations.”

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far-leftism vs. far-rightism, like left and right have become basically meaningless words. Sam Harris has just recently done a video titled, "The Politics of Antisemitism: A Conversation with Rabbi David Wolpe (Episode #348)"

It could hardly demonstrate my point more clearly. He and his guest acknowledge that there is Antisemitism on both ends of the spectrum while apparently missing that it almost without doubt is spread evenly along the spectrum.

If you have a point to make you should be able to make it without reference to left/right. How does left/right contribute anything of value.

The issue of abortion might offer another example. I'm sure it is almost universally thought that pro-choice inhabit the left and pro-life the right - maybe even just the far right. But how useless does the left/right labels appear when you have someone holding many far left view that is pro-life or someone on the far right who couldn't care about pro-life issues at all and is 100% pro-choice.

It all seems like meaningless labels to me.

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I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that far leftism exists where it’s allowed to exist. I don’t know if the Taliban would approve of new genders and identify as a “They” on their Twitter bio.

Of all Abrahamic religions, Christianity is the most merciful and forgiving. Thus, it’s vulnerable by giving power to its detractors in the form of a choice.

People are creative, I mean the new rapture is Climate-change. The anti-Christ is traditional religion, and salvation is to be found in inclusivity… that which is acceptable to include of course..

Though the United States is not a Christian state by decree, it leans into Christian ideals.

Even these ideals were predicated from different versions of the same stories told before. It’s like a meta-physical chord progression.

Far leftism is a euphemism for freely thinking non-traditional people at any given time, so what you may call far left now, is the far right 50 years from now, because they’ll get stuck in that line of thought or just evaporate.

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The United States government has become a wholly owned subsidiary of the American Israeli Political Action Committee.

Nobody is going to fight a war for Biden, he is dumber than Bush . . . Nobody is going to fight a war for that kikesucking Zionist ass-whore Nikki Haley . . .

The fat, bulbous curry nigger, U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, was telling everyone how the US Army is full of bad racist white men, and now the Army is doing ads begging for more young white men?

What happened?

Even with a full-on declaration of war from Congress, and even if Gavin Jewsome could be cheated in by ZOG somehow, with Globohomo brigades going door-to-door looking to impress white American children into military service, they will be met with armed, well-trained opposition.

White people are done fighting wars for these kikesucking Zionist ass-whores . . . With the borders of the US and Europe wide open, open warfare at home is a certainty if foreign wars are declared.

Get ready for it, the fat old fags in power are in no shape to fight a war.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/oh-how-fond-they-are-of-the-book

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That's a really interesting point I hadn't considered before. So you feel that the far left is a response to the far right? The stronger the right, the more likely a nation will develop a far left?

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No, not necessarily. I argue at length in the full article that far-leftism derives out of Christian ethics; an argument I cite one of Ayaan’s key sources as agreeing with.

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Judeo-messianism has been spreading its poisonous message among us for nearly two thousand years. Democratic and communist universalisms are more recent, but they have only reinforced the old Jewish narrative. They are the same ideals.

The transnational, transracial, transsexual, transcultural ideals that these ideologies preach to us (beyond peoples, races, cultures) and which are the daily sustenance of our schools, in our media, in our popular culture, at our universities, and on our streets, have ended up reducing our biosymbolic identity and ethnic pride to their minimal expression.

Jewish bankers flooded Europe with Muslims and America with third-world garbage. Exile as punishment for those who preach sedition should be reinstated within the legal framework of the West . . . Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are death cults originating in the Middle East and totally alien to Europe and its peoples.

One sometimes wonders why the European left gets along so well with Muslims. Why does an often overtly anti-religious movement take the side of a fierce religiosity that seems to oppose almost everything the left has always claimed to stand for? Part of the explanation lies in the fact that Islam and Marxism have a common ideological root: Judaism.

No country is leading its own course in this invasion because it is a UN-led political agenda driven by the Jews and their puppets (politicians). Most people just don't know or understand that this is a political agenda. However, some manage to understand that politicians are deliberately working to import Muslims and replace people, but that's it, they are like a computer that can't work because the program doesn't allow it.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/pardonne-mon-francais-va-te-faire

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Judeo-messianism has been spreading its poisonous message among us for nearly two thousand years. Democratic and communist universalisms are more recent, but they have only reinforced the old Jewish narrative. They are the same ideals.

The transnational, transracial, transsexual, transcultural ideals that these ideologies preach to us (beyond peoples, races, cultures) and which are the daily sustenance of our schools, in our media, in our popular culture, at our universities, and on our streets, have ended up reducing our biosymbolic identity and ethnic pride to their minimal expression.

Jewish bankers flooded Europe with Muslims and America with third-world garbage. Exile as punishment for those who preach sedition should be reinstated within the legal framework of the West . . . Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are death cults originating in the Middle East and totally alien to Europe and its peoples.

One sometimes wonders why the European left gets along so well with Muslims. Why does an often overtly anti-religious movement take the side of a fierce religiosity that seems to oppose almost everything the left has always claimed to stand for? Part of the explanation lies in the fact that Islam and Marxism have a common ideological root: Judaism.

No country is leading its own course in this invasion because it is a UN-led political agenda driven by the Jews and their puppets (politicians). Most people just don't know or understand that this is a political agenda. However, some manage to understand that politicians are deliberately working to import Muslims and replace people, but that's it, they are like a computer that can't work because the program doesn't allow it.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/pardonne-mon-francais-va-te-faire

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I'm not a Christian, but Ayaan has more courage in her little finger than you and most of your readers have in their entire bodies. If she's decided on Christianity, good for her.

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Do you not know the story of her plight through Islam? The unbelievable things she dealt with?

Because if you did; you would then know why it’s bizarre that she chose some bat shit crazy cult like Christianity.

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Estic obligat a escriure en diversos idiomes perquè: 1. A la majoria de la gent dels Estats Units se'ls ha rentat el cervell perquè cregui que els jueus són la seva salvació; i 2., el seu anglès és una merda i no poden romandre en silenci el temps suficient per escoltar o veure el que òbviament passa al seu voltant . . . El judeomessianisme fa gairebé dos mil anys que escampa entre nosaltres el seu missatge verinós. Els universalismes democràtics i comunistes són més recents, però només han reforçat la vella narrativa jueva. Són els mateixos ideals.

Els ideals transnacionals, transracials, transsexuals, transculturals que aquestes ideologies ens prediquen (més enllà dels pobles, races, cultures) i que són el sosteniment diari de les nostres escoles, als nostres mitjans de comunicació, a la nostra cultura popular, a les nostres universitats, i sobre al nostres els carrers han acabat reduint la nostra identitat biosimbòlica i el nostre orgull ètnic a la seva mínima expressió.

Els banquers jueus han inundat Europa amb musulmans i Amèrica amb escombraries del tercer món . . . L'exili com a càstig per als que predicen la sedició s'hauria de restablir dins el marc legal d'Occident . . . El judaisme, el cristianisme i l'islam són cultes a la mort originats a l'Orient Mitjà i totalment aliens a Europa i als seus pobles.

De vegades ens preguntem per què l'esquerra europea es porta tan bé amb els musulmans. Per què un moviment sovint obertament antireligiós es posa del costat d'una religiositat ferotge que sembla oposar-se a gairebé tot allò que l'esquerra sempre ha pretès defensar? Part de l'explicació rau en el fet que l'islam i el marxisme tenen una arrel ideològica comuna: el judaisme.

Don Rumsfeld tenia raó quan va dir: "Europa s'ha desplaçat en el seu eix", va ser el bàndol equivocat que va guanyar la Segona Guerra Mundial, i es fa més clar cada dia . . . Què ha fet l'OTAN per defensar Europa? Absolutament res . . . Els meus enemics no són a Moscou, Damasc, Teheran, Riad o algun eteri bogeyman teutónic, els meus enemics són a Washington, Brussel·les i Tel Aviv. Nacionalsocialistes van venir a alliberar París, nosaltres no el vam destruir.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/pardonne-mon-francais-va-te-faire

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The bat shit crazy cult is the one that thinks coronavirus derived from bats. :)

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What can be more patronizing than someone telling/explaining to you what you REALLY believe...?

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Judeo-messianism has been spreading its poisonous message among us for nearly two thousand years. Democratic and communist universalisms are more recent, but they have only reinforced the old Jewish narrative. They are the same ideals.

The transnational, transracial, transsexual, transcultural ideals that these ideologies preach to us (beyond peoples, races, cultures) and which are the daily sustenance of our schools, in our media, in our popular culture, at our universities, and on our streets, have ended up reducing our biosymbolic identity and ethnic pride to their minimal expression.

Jewish bankers flooded Europe with Muslims and America with third-world garbage. Exile as punishment for those who preach sedition should be reinstated within the legal framework of the West . . . Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are death cults originating in the Middle East and totally alien to Europe and its peoples.

One sometimes wonders why the European left gets along so well with Muslims. Why does an often overtly anti-religious movement take the side of a fierce religiosity that seems to oppose almost everything the left has always claimed to stand for? Part of the explanation lies in the fact that Islam and Marxism have a common ideological root: Judaism.

No country is leading its own course in this invasion because it is a UN-led political agenda driven by the Jews and their puppets (politicians). Most people just don't know or understand that this is a political agenda. However, some manage to understand that politicians are deliberately working to import Muslims and replace people, but that's it, they are like a computer that can't work because the program doesn't allow it.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/pardonne-mon-francais-va-te-faire

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So true Ayaan! You dont need any religion to feel fulfilled. All you need to see and ask yourself, what has Christianity done in the past, and what is it doing today? In my country Macedonia, people are predominantly Christians and they would rather spend making their churches extravagant, while the hospitals are run down. As a nurse im absolutely dumbfounded, Most are poor, so what religion does is give them a sense of false hope. Its the hospitals, nurses and Drs that will try and heal them, not an imaginary’God’. Im making the most of my life, because this is it. So im enjoying it to the fullest. Studying Biology and also Im thinking of writing a book. Enjoy your life, no one needs religion, theres 4000 different ones today! How do you know you’ve chosen the right one? Its all man-made, and i want to live my life knowing the truth. Dont you? The truth is backed by evidence, and there is NO evidence of an Intelligent Creator. Take the time and enjoy the things you like to do. Good luck Eve Niceski

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Religious converts don't do well as atheists, they always have that whole of faith in their life.

Born atheists (rather youth who were never into the lies in the first place) are much more intellectually free (generally) than converts.

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Pardonne mon français . . . Je suis obligé d'écrire dans plusieurs langues parce que : 1. La plupart des gens aux États-Unis ont subi un lavage de cerveau leur faisant croire que les Juifs sont leur salut ; et 2., leur anglais est de la merde et ils ne peuvent pas rester silencieux assez longtemps pour entendre ou voir ce qui se passe évidemment autour d'eux . . . Le judéo-messianisme répand parmi nous son message empoisonné depuis près de deux mille ans. Les universalismes démocratique et communiste sont plus récents, mais ils n’ont fait que renforcer le vieux récit juif. Ce sont les mêmes idéaux.

Les idéaux transnationaux, transraciaux, transsexuels, transculturels que ces idéologies nous prêchent (au-delà des peuples, des races, des cultures) et qui sont le subsistance quotidienne de nos écoles, dans nos médias, dans notre culture populaire, à nos universités, et sur nos rues, ont fini par réduire notre identité biosymbolique et notre fierté ethnique à leur expression minimale.

Les banquiers juifs ont inondé l’Europe de musulmans et l’Amérique de déchets du tiers-monde . . . L'exil comme punition pour ceux qui prêchent la sédition devrait être rétabli dans le cadre juridique de l'Occident . . . Le judaïsme, le christianisme, et l’islam sont des cultes de mort originaires du Moyen-Orient et totalement étrangers à l’Europe et à ses peuples.

On se demande parfois pourquoi la gauche européenne s’entend si bien avec les musulmans. Pourquoi un mouvement souvent ouvertement antireligieux prend-il le parti d’une religiosité farouche qui semble s’opposer à presque tout ce que la gauche a toujours prétendu défendre ? Une partie de l’explication réside dans le fait que l’Islam et le marxisme ont une racine idéologique commune : le judaïsme.

Don Rumsfeld avait raison lorsqu’il disait : «L’Europe s’est décalé sur son axe», c’est le mauvais côté qui a gagné la Seconde Guerre mondiale, et cela devient chaque jour plus clair . . . Qu’a fait l’OTAN pour défendre l’Europe? Absolument rien . . . Mes ennemis ne sont pas à Moscou, à Damas, à Téhéran, à Riyad ou dans quelque croque-mitaine teutonique éthéré, mes ennemis sont à Washington, Bruxelles et Tel Aviv.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/pardonne-mon-francais-va-te-faire

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Do you have any credible source for that claim people who abandoned religion vs folks who were never indoctrinated in the first place? It is a plausible hypothesis, but has it been confirmed by any peer reviewed studies?

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You know damned well we aren't talking about "studies", we're talking about lifetimes of experience. I'm nearly as old as Dawkins, I know what atheism looked like before Gnu-atheism took over.

Religious people are constantly accusing atheists of having a "void". The only people who have a "void" are those who created one. Those with a void are always subject to having it filled with more nonsense.

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Judeo-messianism has been spreading its poisonous message among us for nearly two thousand years. Democratic and communist universalisms are more recent, but they have only reinforced the old Jewish narrative. They are the same ideals.

The transnational, transracial, transsexual, transcultural ideals that these ideologies preach to us (beyond peoples, races, cultures) and which are the daily sustenance of our schools, in our media, in our popular culture, at our universities, and on our streets, have ended up reducing our biosymbolic identity and ethnic pride to their minimal expression.

Jewish bankers flooded Europe with Muslims and America with third-world garbage. Exile as punishment for those who preach sedition should be reinstated within the legal framework of the West . . . Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are death cults originating in the Middle East and totally alien to Europe and its peoples.

One sometimes wonders why the European left gets along so well with Muslims. Why does an often overtly anti-religious movement take the side of a fierce religiosity that seems to oppose almost everything the left has always claimed to stand for? Part of the explanation lies in the fact that Islam and Marxism have a common ideological root: Judaism.

No country is leading its own course in this invasion because it is a UN-led political agenda driven by the Jews and their puppets (politicians). Most people just don't know or understand that this is a political agenda. However, some manage to understand that politicians are deliberately working to import Muslims and replace people, but that's it, they are like a computer that can't work because the program doesn't allow it.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/pardonne-mon-francais-va-te-faire

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Pardonne mon français . . . Je suis obligé d'écrire dans plusieurs langues parce que : 1. La plupart des gens aux États-Unis ont subi un lavage de cerveau leur faisant croire que les Juifs sont leur salut ; et 2., leur anglais est de la merde et ils ne peuvent pas rester silencieux assez longtemps pour entendre ou voir ce qui se passe évidemment autour d'eux . . . Le judéo-messianisme répand parmi nous son message empoisonné depuis près de deux mille ans. Les universalismes démocratique et communiste sont plus récents, mais ils n’ont fait que renforcer le vieux récit juif. Ce sont les mêmes idéaux.

Les idéaux transnationaux, transraciaux, transsexuels, transculturels que ces idéologies nous prêchent (au-delà des peuples, des races, des cultures) et qui sont le subsistance quotidienne de nos écoles, dans nos médias, dans notre culture populaire, à nos universités, et sur nos rues, ont fini par réduire notre identité biosymbolique et notre fierté ethnique à leur expression minimale.

Les banquiers juifs ont inondé l’Europe de musulmans et l’Amérique de déchets du tiers-monde . . . L'exil comme punition pour ceux qui prêchent la sédition devrait être rétabli dans le cadre juridique de l'Occident . . . Le judaïsme, le christianisme, et l’islam sont des cultes de mort originaires du Moyen-Orient et totalement étrangers à l’Europe et à ses peuples.

On se demande parfois pourquoi la gauche européenne s’entend si bien avec les musulmans. Pourquoi un mouvement souvent ouvertement antireligieux prend-il le parti d’une religiosité farouche qui semble s’opposer à presque tout ce que la gauche a toujours prétendu défendre ? Une partie de l’explication réside dans le fait que l’Islam et le marxisme ont une racine idéologique commune : le judaïsme.

Don Rumsfeld avait raison lorsqu’il disait : «L’Europe s’est décalé sur son axe», c’est le mauvais côté qui a gagné la Seconde Guerre mondiale, et cela devient chaque jour plus clair . . . Qu’a fait l’OTAN pour défendre l’Europe? Absolument rien . . . Mes ennemis ne sont pas à Moscou, à Damas, à Téhéran, à Riyad ou dans quelque croque-mitaine teutonique éthéré, mes ennemis sont à Washington, Bruxelles et Tel Aviv.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/pardonne-mon-francais-va-te-faire

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One should certainly enjoy life to the fullest, even Jesus said I have come that you might have life and have it to the full.

However, doctors and nurses don't heal people, in theory they help sick people enable the sick person's body heal.

However nowadays many are poisoning people with vaccines and big pharma drugs, although to be fair that has been going on for a long time, it's just that is has got a lot worse as of late.

As to how the body heals, well it is designed that way otherwise there would be complete chaos. If it is designed that way then an intelligent designer is required.

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The problem with dogmatic belief systems is they are subject to the interpretive whims of the believers. Untethered to any objective truth that is a pendulum that swings erratically. Right now Christianity clearly seems to be a more benign force than Islamism. But that could easily change. There are Christians right now that believe that gays deserve to die. Some believe the same of Jews. There are white Christians that believe black people are evil. Some, all of this and more. They may be in the minority now but there is nothing in the dogma that ensures it will stay that way. The Christian Bible is a Rorschach mess of hearsay that gives no more guidance than what the believer inserts into it. The only possible way to unite humanity is a true understanding of our nature and that of the world within which we live. No dogmatic belief system can provide that.

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There is wisdom in your words. In fact, all three of the holy books of the Abrahamic faiths contain ample proof of only one thing: Humans are an easily deceived lot, and still remain - for the most part remarkably ignorant of our true nature or the true nature of the world we happen to live in. It would be shocking if it weren’t so predictable. It would be funny, if it weren’t so sad. Like the world we live in, humanity is full of infinite beauty, and hideous ugliness. Great order and complete randomness. Deep wisdom and complete ignorance. If there is one thing that a human can learn from the Torah, the New Testament or the Koran it is this: Humanity can be absolutely certain that religious dogma of any kind isn’t our best way forward.

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Judeo-messianism has been spreading its poisonous message among us for nearly two thousand years. Democratic and communist universalisms are more recent, but they have only reinforced the old Jewish narrative. They are the same ideals.

The transnational, transracial, transsexual, transcultural ideals that these ideologies preach to us (beyond peoples, races, cultures) and which are the daily sustenance of our schools, in our media, in our popular culture, at our universities, and on our streets, have ended up reducing our biosymbolic identity and ethnic pride to their minimal expression.

Jewish bankers flooded Europe with Muslims and America with third-world garbage. Exile as punishment for those who preach sedition should be reinstated within the legal framework of the West . . . Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are death cults originating in the Middle East and totally alien to Europe and its peoples.

One sometimes wonders why the European left gets along so well with Muslims. Why does an often overtly anti-religious movement take the side of a fierce religiosity that seems to oppose almost everything the left has always claimed to stand for? Part of the explanation lies in the fact that Islam and Marxism have a common ideological root: Judaism.

No country is leading its own course in this invasion because it is a UN-led political agenda driven by the Jews and their puppets (politicians). Most people just don't know or understand that this is a political agenda. However, some manage to understand that politicians are deliberately working to import Muslims and replace people, but that's it, they are like a computer that can't work because the program doesn't allow it.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/pardonne-mon-francais-va-te-faire

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Dawkins is just as dogmatic in his Humanism as any other religious dogmatism. Humanism is simply godless Christianity with pseudoscientific rationalisation of morality.

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Judeo-messianism has been spreading its poisonous message among us for nearly two thousand years. Democratic and communist universalisms are more recent, but they have only reinforced the old Jewish narrative. They are the same ideals.

The transnational, transracial, transsexual, transcultural ideals that these ideologies preach to us (beyond peoples, races, cultures) and which are the daily sustenance of our schools, in our media, in our popular culture, at our universities, and on our streets, have ended up reducing our biosymbolic identity and ethnic pride to their minimal expression.

Jewish bankers flooded Europe with Muslims and America with third-world garbage. Exile as punishment for those who preach sedition should be reinstated within the legal framework of the West . . . Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are death cults originating in the Middle East and totally alien to Europe and its peoples.

One sometimes wonders why the European left gets along so well with Muslims. Why does an often overtly anti-religious movement take the side of a fierce religiosity that seems to oppose almost everything the left has always claimed to stand for? Part of the explanation lies in the fact that Islam and Marxism have a common ideological root: Judaism.

No country is leading its own course in this invasion because it is a UN-led political agenda driven by the Jews and their puppets (politicians). Most people just don't know or understand that this is a political agenda. However, some manage to understand that politicians are deliberately working to import Muslims and replace people, but that's it, they are like a computer that can't work because the program doesn't allow it.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/pardonne-mon-francais-va-te-faire

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No he is not. Someone who doesn’t believe in a god idea is just someone who ‘doesn’t believe’. Atheism does not posit a Thing to believe. It has no dogma. It’s a lack of belief. Once a thing is known, belief becomes irrelevant.

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Judeo-messianism has been spreading its poisonous message among us for nearly two thousand years. Democratic and communist universalisms are more recent, but they have only reinforced the old Jewish narrative. They are the same ideals.

The transnational, transracial, transsexual, transcultural ideals that these ideologies preach to us (beyond peoples, races, cultures) and which are the daily sustenance of our schools, in our media, in our popular culture, at our universities, and on our streets, have ended up reducing our biosymbolic identity and ethnic pride to their minimal expression.

Jewish bankers flooded Europe with Muslims and America with third-world garbage. Exile as punishment for those who preach sedition should be reinstated within the legal framework of the West . . . Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are death cults originating in the Middle East and totally alien to Europe and its peoples.

One sometimes wonders why the European left gets along so well with Muslims. Why does an often overtly anti-religious movement take the side of a fierce religiosity that seems to oppose almost everything the left has always claimed to stand for? Part of the explanation lies in the fact that Islam and Marxism have a common ideological root: Judaism.

No country is leading its own course in this invasion because it is a UN-led political agenda driven by the Jews and their puppets (politicians). Most people just don't know or understand that this is a political agenda. However, some manage to understand that politicians are deliberately working to import Muslims and replace people, but that's it, they are like a computer that can't work because the program doesn't allow it.

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He is a part of the religion of Humanism. It doesn't matter if you believe in a sky daddy or if you believe men are gods, when you're pushing the same theology. You believe in meaningless atheism, atheism in name only, you're a part of the problem.

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“Oh how fond they are of the book of Esther, which is so beautifully attuned to their bloodthirsty, vengeful, murderous yearning and hope.” — Martin Luther

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We Can't Afford Healthcare for American Children Because We Keep Bombing Everyone Else's for the Love of Jesus and Israel . . .

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/we-cant-afford-healthcare-for-american

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Christianity is summed up in this, love the lord your god and love your neighbor as yourself. A Christian, grows into this ideal. Many claim to be Christians and are not and the rest of us trust that Holy Spirit himself is working in us to live up to that ideal. No one does this side of death. A few, like mother Tresa became wonderful examples. The fruit of pursuing Christ is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness and self-control. Who can object to that?

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“Oh how fond they are of the book of Esther, which is so beautifully attuned to their bloodthirsty, vengeful, murderous yearning and hope.” — Martin Luther

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/oh-how-fond-they-are-of-the-book

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We Can't Afford Healthcare for American Children Because We Keep Bombing Everyone Else's for the Love of Jesus and Israel . . .

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/we-cant-afford-healthcare-for-american

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My heart goes out to Ayaan. If anyone deserves to find solace it's her.

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The most charitable comment I have read. But Ayaan needs to accept responsibility for all the critical reactions that have trailed her very personal spiritual experience. She should have conducted it as much as possible away from public glare...

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Why should she stay quiet? Ayaan is not complaining and is open to a discussion with a wide panel of thinkers in May.

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The problem, Richard, is that your secular humanism only tends to last for a generation or two before it inevitably degenerates into nihilism or some malign replacement for the hole that was formerly filled by religion -- Marxism, Salifyyah, Nazism, etc.

Better to fill that hole with beliefs, however implausible, that persuade people to be nice to each other.

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You’re pointing to the interesting question of the matter--- what is the evolutionarily adaptive function of religion?

It’s the conundrum of modernity. People are born into a society that is stabilized by a moral structure grounded in religious beliefs. Then they go to school and learn from Darwin that human value systems are based on no reality that is independent of the social interactions of humans as an evolved species. The implicit logic of this is that cultural norms are relative, which devolves into the nihilism of Critical Theory that we are all living through at the moment.

When Nietzsche said God is dead, he wasn’t celebrating a liberating insight, he was just pointing out that humans are utterly alone. Which leaves us with wokeism, a sort of half-baked residual religious impulse of secular society

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El judeomessianisme fa gairebé dos mil anys que escampa entre nosaltres el seu missatge verinós. Els universalismes democràtics i comunistes són més recents, però només han reforçat la vella narrativa jueva. Són els mateixos ideals.

Els ideals transnacionals, transracials, transsexuals, transculturals que aquestes ideologies ens prediquen (més enllà dels pobles, races, cultures) i que són el sosteniment diari de les nostres escoles, als nostres mitjans de comunicació, a la nostra cultura popular, a les nostres universitats, i sobre al nostres els carrers han acabat reduint la nostra identitat biosimbòlica i el nostre orgull ètnic a la seva mínima expressió.

Els banquers jueus han inundat Europa amb musulmans i Amèrica amb escombraries del tercer món . . . L'exili com a càstig per als que predicen la sedició s'hauria de restablir dins el marc legal d'Occident . . . El judaisme, el cristianisme i l'islam són cultes a la mort originats a l'Orient Mitjà i totalment aliens a Europa i als seus pobles.

De vegades ens preguntem per què l'esquerra europea es porta tan bé amb els musulmans. Per què un moviment sovint obertament antireligiós es posa del costat d'una religiositat ferotge que sembla oposar-se a gairebé tot allò que l'esquerra sempre ha pretès defensar? Part de l'explicació rau en el fet que l'islam i el marxisme tenen una arrel ideològica comuna: el judaisme.

Don Rumsfeld tenia raó quan va dir: "Europa s'ha desplaçat en el seu eix", va ser el bàndol equivocat que va guanyar la Segona Guerra Mundial, i es fa més clar cada dia . . . Què ha fet l'OTAN per defensar Europa? Absolutament res . . . Els meus enemics no són a Moscou, Damasc, Teheran, Riad o algun eteri bogeyman teutónic, els meus enemics són a Washington, Brussel·les i Tel Aviv. Nacionalsocialistes van venir a alliberar París, nosaltres no el vam destruir.

Cap país segueix el seu propi curs en aquesta invasió perquè és una agenda política liderada per l'ONU i impulsada pels jueus i els seus titelles (polítics). La majoria de la gent simplement no sap ni entén que aquesta és una agenda política. Tanmateix, alguns aconsegueixen entendre que els polítics estan treballant deliberadament per importar musulmans i substituir gent, però això és tot, són com un ordinador que no pot funcionar perquè el programa no ho permet.

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Your suggestion that my atheism means that I am unable to live a life in which I can be nice to anyone is pretty offensive. I don’t believe in any gods. I am not drawn to nihilism or Marxism or Nazism or any other ‘malign replacement’ and I don’t have a ‘hole’ in my life that needs filling. Religious people just can’t seem to stomach that non believing people can get along very well and live good, fulfilled lives without belief in gods. I try not to be rude to religious people, but they seem to love being rude to me.

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Al contrari . . . Nacionalsocialistes van venir a alliberar París, nosaltres no el vam destruir . . . Estic obligat a escriure en diversos idiomes perquè: 1. A la majoria de la gent dels Estats Units se'ls ha rentat el cervell perquè cregui que els jueus són la seva salvació; i 2., el seu anglès és una merda i no poden romandre en silenci el temps suficient per escoltar o veure el que òbviament passa al seu voltant . . . El judeomessianisme fa gairebé dos mil anys que escampa entre nosaltres el seu missatge verinós. Els universalismes democràtics i comunistes són més recents, però només han reforçat la vella narrativa jueva. Són els mateixos ideals.

Els ideals transnacionals, transracials, transsexuals, transculturals que aquestes ideologies ens prediquen (més enllà dels pobles, races, cultures) i que són el sosteniment diari de les nostres escoles, als nostres mitjans de comunicació, a la nostra cultura popular, a les nostres universitats, i sobre al nostres els carrers han acabat reduint la nostra identitat biosimbòlica i el nostre orgull ètnic a la seva mínima expressió.

Els banquers jueus han inundat Europa amb musulmans i Amèrica amb escombraries del tercer món . . . L'exili com a càstig per als que predicen la sedició s'hauria de restablir dins el marc legal d'Occident . . . El judaisme, el cristianisme i l'islam són cultes a la mort originats a l'Orient Mitjà i totalment aliens a Europa i als seus pobles.

De vegades ens preguntem per què l'esquerra europea es porta tan bé amb els musulmans. Per què un moviment sovint obertament antireligiós es posa del costat d'una religiositat ferotge que sembla oposar-se a gairebé tot allò que l'esquerra sempre ha pretès defensar? Part de l'explicació rau en el fet que l'islam i el marxisme tenen una arrel ideològica comuna: el judaisme.

Don Rumsfeld tenia raó quan va dir: "Europa s'ha desplaçat en el seu eix", va ser el bàndol equivocat que va guanyar la Segona Guerra Mundial, i es fa més clar cada dia . . . Què ha fet l'OTAN per defensar Europa? Absolutament res . . . Els meus enemics no són a Moscou, Damasc, Teheran, Riad o algun eteri bogeyman teutónic, els meus enemics són a Washington, Brusselles i Tel Aviv.

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First, I am not religious at all. And I was not trying to be rude to you. In fact I didn't even address those comments to you, not knowing that you existed at the time. The fact that you feel directly offended ("my atheism") by them speaks volumes. Many religions have practices that can foster inner calm and serenity and enable one to view such comments with appropriate sang froid and equanimity. Just sayin'.

I once gave some Mormon missionaries who came to my house (uninvited) a terrible protracted grilling about Joseph Smith, the ridiculous disappearing tablets, and all that. They responded with such genuine and cheerful goodwill, it was frankly endearing. Can a religion that induces people to be persistently happy, kind, and look after others be that terrible? At least in my community, these guys are always helping out.

It strikes me that the societies that are the most devoid of religion are often low-trust societies -- places like the Soviet Union, China, or North Korea that hold things together only with oppressive dictatorial govt. When that goes away, they descend into corrupt mafia hellholes.

The best case is maybe something like the EU, a "community" that sat around with their thumbs in their asses while genocide occurred in Bosnia and Kosovo (a 45 minute plane flight from Vienna). If you don't believe in something greater, what exactly are you willing to fight and die for? Probably not even your own country, and certainly not some Bosniaks or Albanians. So yeah, in a few generations, the Putins and the mafia people take over. Let's enjoy our secular humanism while it lasts.

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Nacionalsocialistes van venir a alliberar París, nosaltres no el vam destruir . . . Estic obligat a escriure en diversos idiomes perquè: 1. A la majoria de la gent dels Estats Units se'ls ha rentat el cervell perquè cregui que els jueus són la seva salvació; i 2., el seu anglès és una merda i no poden romandre en silenci el temps suficient per escoltar o veure el que òbviament passa al seu voltant . . . El judeomessianisme fa gairebé dos mil anys que escampa entre nosaltres el seu missatge verinós. Els universalismes democràtics i comunistes són més recents, però només han reforçat la vella narrativa jueva. Són els mateixos ideals.

Els ideals transnacionals, transracials, transsexuals, transculturals que aquestes ideologies ens prediquen (més enllà dels pobles, races, cultures) i que són el sosteniment diari de les nostres escoles, als nostres mitjans de comunicació, a la nostra cultura popular, a les nostres universitats, i sobre al nostres els carrers han acabat reduint la nostra identitat biosimbòlica i el nostre orgull ètnic a la seva mínima expressió.

Els banquers jueus han inundat Europa amb musulmans i Amèrica amb escombraries del tercer món . . . L'exili com a càstig per als que predicen la sedició s'hauria de restablir dins el marc legal d'Occident . . . El judaisme, el cristianisme i l'islam són cultes a la mort originats a l'Orient Mitjà i totalment aliens a Europa i als seus pobles.

De vegades ens preguntem per què l'esquerra europea es porta tan bé amb els musulmans. Per què un moviment sovint obertament antireligiós es posa del costat d'una religiositat ferotge que sembla oposar-se a gairebé tot allò que l'esquerra sempre ha pretès defensar? Part de l'explicació rau en el fet que l'islam i el marxisme tenen una arrel ideològica comuna: el judaisme.

Don Rumsfeld tenia raó quan va dir: "Europa s'ha desplaçat en el seu eix", va ser el bàndol equivocat que va guanyar la Segona Guerra Mundial, i es fa més clar cada dia . . . Què ha fet l'OTAN per defensar Europa? Absolutament res . . . Els meus enemics no són a Moscou, Damasc, Teheran, Riad o algun eteri bogeyman teutónic, els meus enemics són a Washington, Brusselles i Tel Aviv.

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I didn’t say I was offended. Just that it was offensive. Not quite the same thing, whatever volumes you hear in it. My inner calm and serenity are not much perturbed as I’m quite secure in my worldview. I’m intrigued as to why some people don’t like me to have it however.

The dictatorial or authoritarian governments that you mention are often called ‘atheist’, but they’re not. They’re substituting something else - the State. The measure of control that keeps the citizens afraid & in line. It’s another form of ‘god’. But more insidious & dangerous. As for your assumptions about me and the way I view the world - that I ‘probably’ wouldn’t fight oppression or violence if it threatened those I care for or the country I live in, well I’m baffled at how you can know these things about me. But somehow I manage to summon up a sense of loyalty & love & a value of freedom for the people I love & the country I choose to live in, despite not believing in a ‘higher power’. I’m sorry if you can’t accept that, but there it is. That’s ok. Go well & in peace.

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Au contraire . . . Pardonne mon français . . . Je suis obligé d'écrire dans plusieurs langues parce que : 1. La plupart des gens aux États-Unis ont subi un lavage de cerveau leur faisant croire que les Juifs sont leur salut ; et 2., leur anglais est de la merde et ils ne peuvent pas rester silencieux assez longtemps pour entendre ou voir ce qui se passe évidemment autour d'eux . . . Le judéo-messianisme répand parmi nous son message empoisonné depuis près de deux mille ans. Les universalismes démocratique et communiste sont plus récents, mais ils n’ont fait que renforcer le vieux récit juif. Ce sont les mêmes idéaux.

Les idéaux transnationaux, transraciaux, transsexuels, transculturels que ces idéologies nous prêchent (au-delà des peuples, des races, des cultures) et qui sont le subsistance quotidienne de nos écoles, dans nos médias, dans notre culture populaire, à nos universités, et sur nos rues, ont fini par réduire notre identité biosymbolique et notre fierté ethnique à leur expression minimale.

Les banquiers juifs ont inondé l’Europe de musulmans et l’Amérique de déchets du tiers-monde . . . L'exil comme punition pour ceux qui prêchent la sédition devrait être rétabli dans le cadre juridique de l'Occident . . . Le judaïsme, le christianisme, et l’islam sont des cultes de mort originaires du Moyen-Orient et totalement étrangers à l’Europe et à ses peuples.

On se demande parfois pourquoi la gauche européenne s’entend si bien avec les musulmans. Pourquoi un mouvement souvent ouvertement antireligieux prend-il le parti d’une religiosité farouche qui semble s’opposer à presque tout ce que la gauche a toujours prétendu défendre ? Une partie de l’explication réside dans le fait que l’Islam et le marxisme ont une racine idéologique commune : le judaïsme.

Don Rumsfeld avait raison lorsqu’il disait : «L’Europe s’est décalé sur son axe», c’est le mauvais côté qui a gagné la Seconde Guerre mondiale, et cela devient chaque jour plus clair . . . Qu’a fait l’OTAN pour défendre l’Europe? Absolument rien . . . Mes ennemis ne sont pas à Moscou, à Damas, à Téhéran, à Riyad ou dans quelque croque-mitaine teutonique éthéré, mes ennemis sont à Washington, Bruxelles et Tel Aviv . . . Va te faire foutre toi et ton dieu juif.

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"As for your assumptions about me and the way I view the world..." Again, this really isn't about you. You may indeed be able to muster patriotism and a willingness to lay down your life for others. If so, great! But you are probably an anomaly.

When a terrorist with a gun storms a Belgian train, who will risk their lives to save the other passengers? Secular humanist Europeans? Or devote Christian Americans.....

https://www.liberty.edu/news/2018/02/09/heroes-of-the-1517-to-paris-share-faith-detail-events-of-thwarted-terrorist-attack/

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You ‘probably’ don’t know enough atheists then. I know lots & I’m not an anomaly. You ask a hypothetical question about who will do a brave thing in the face of grave danger, but you’ve already decided the answer & have a ‘faith’ example ready. Atheism isn’t a club & they don’t come together to ascribe their reactions to an event in terms of their atheism. So if it’s a concept you’re suspicious of, I guess you will never accept that ‘godless heathens’ equally can and do perform instinctively selfless acts in the service of others.

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Judeo-messianism has been spreading its poisonous message among us for nearly two thousand years. Democratic and communist universalisms are more recent, but they have only reinforced the old Jewish narrative. They are the same ideals.

The transnational, transracial, transsexual, transcultural ideals that these ideologies preach to us (across peoples, races, cultures) and which are the daily sustenance of our schools, in our media, in our popular culture, at our universities, and on our streets, have ended up reducing our biosymbolic identity and ethnic pride to their minimal expression.

Jewish bankers flooded Europe with Muslims and America with third-world garbage. Exile as punishment for those who preach sedition should be reinstated within the legal framework of the West. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are death cults originating in the Middle East and totally alien to Europe and its peoples.

One sometimes wonders why the European left gets along so well with Muslims. Why does an often overtly anti-religious movement take the side of a fierce religiosity that seems to oppose almost everything the left has always claimed to stand for? Part of the explanation lies in the fact that Islam and Marxism have a common ideological root: Judaism.

No country is leading its own course in this invasion because it is a UN-led political agenda driven by the Jews and their puppets (politicians). Most people just don't know or understand that this is a political agenda. However, some manage to understand that politicians are deliberately working to import Muslims and replace people, but that's it, they are like a computer that can't work because the program doesn't allow it.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/pardonne-mon-francais-va-te-faire

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Pardonne mon français . . . Le judéo-messianisme répand parmi nous son message empoisonné depuis près de deux mille ans. Les universalismes démocratique et communiste sont plus récents, mais ils n’ont fait que renforcer le vieux récit juif. Ce sont les mêmes idéaux.

Les idéaux transnationaux, transraciaux, transsexuels, transculturels que ces idéologies nous prêchent (au-delà des peuples, des races, des cultures) et qui sont le subsistance quotidienne de nos écoles, dans nos médias, dans notre culture populaire, à nos universités, et sur nos rues, ont fini par réduire notre identité biosymbolique et notre fierté ethnique à leur expression minimale.

Les banquiers juifs ont inondé l’Europe de musulmans et l’Amérique de déchets du tiers-monde . . . L'exil comme punition pour ceux qui prêchent la sédition devrait être rétabli dans le cadre juridique de l'Occident . . . Le judaïsme, le christianisme, et l’islam sont des cultes de mort originaires du Moyen-Orient et totalement étrangers à l’Europe et à ses peuples.

On se demande parfois pourquoi la gauche européenne s’entend si bien avec les musulmans. Pourquoi un mouvement souvent ouvertement antireligieux prend-il le parti d’une religiosité farouche qui semble s’opposer à presque tout ce que la gauche a toujours prétendu défendre ? Une partie de l’explication réside dans le fait que l’Islam et le marxisme ont une racine idéologique commune : le judaïsme.

Aucun pays ne mène sa propre course dans cette invasion parce qu’il s’agit d’un programme politique dirigé par l’ONU et piloté par les Juifs et leurs marionnettes (les politiciens). La plupart des gens ne savent tout simplement pas ou ne comprennent pas qu’il s’agit d’un programme politique. Cependant, certains parviennent à comprendre que les politiciens travaillent délibérément à importer des musulmans et à remplacer des gens, mais c'est tout, ils sont comme un ordinateur qui ne peut pas fonctionner parce que le programme ne le permet pas.

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Thank you, Richard Dawkins, for speaking truth to friends

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Judeo-messianism has been spreading its poisonous message among us for nearly two thousand years. Democratic and communist universalisms are more recent, but they have only reinforced the old Jewish narrative. They are the same ideals.

The transnational, transracial, transsexual, transcultural ideals that these ideologies preach to us (beyond peoples, races, cultures) and which are the daily sustenance of our schools, in our media, in our popular culture, at our universities, and on our streets, have ended up reducing our biosymbolic identity and ethnic pride to their minimal expression.

Jewish bankers flooded Europe with Muslims and America with third-world garbage. Exile as punishment for those who preach sedition should be reinstated within the legal framework of the West . . . Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are death cults originating in the Middle East and totally alien to Europe and its peoples.

One sometimes wonders why the European left gets along so well with Muslims. Why does an often overtly anti-religious movement take the side of a fierce religiosity that seems to oppose almost everything the left has always claimed to stand for? Part of the explanation lies in the fact that Islam and Marxism have a common ideological root: Judaism.

No country is leading its own course in this invasion because it is a UN-led political agenda driven by the Jews and their puppets (politicians). Most people just don't know or understand that this is a political agenda. However, some manage to understand that politicians are deliberately working to import Muslims and replace people, but that's it, they are like a computer that can't work because the program doesn't allow it.

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You obviously never had a “Christian” experience. Who placed morality within you if you do claim a moral ethic? Has morality undergone “evolution?” Divine law has existed eternally without change just as natural law has existed since the creation of our universe. We seek answers to natural law questions through the sciences. Divine law is placed within you at conception and Christianity helps you discover it

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"You obviously never had a “Christian” experience. Who placed morality within you if you do claim a moral ethic?"

Of the estimated 100 billion humans who have ever lived, only a minority have ever had a "Christian" experience. Yet one can be confident that a good proportion of the majority (Christianity is a recent ideology) non-Christians led morally good lives. What is the source of their morality? What makes you so sure that non-Christian traditions of India, China and Greece had nothing to do with ethics and morality?

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“Christianity is a recent ideology”

Christianity is 2000 years old. Neanderthal probably knew right from wrong but he never knew the moral ethic provided to the Israelites and then to the Christians ie the Bible. Morality did not evolve It was revealed to humanity in stages The degradation of current societal norms reflects the disenfranchisement of biblical study

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Judeo-messianism has been spreading its poisonous message among us for nearly two thousand years. Democratic and communist universalisms are more recent, but they have only reinforced the old Jewish narrative. They are the same ideals.

The transnational, transracial, transsexual, transcultural ideals that these ideologies preach to us (across peoples, races, cultures) and which are the daily sustenance of our schools, in our media, in our popular culture, at our universities, and on our streets, have ended up reducing our biosymbolic identity and ethnic pride to their minimal expression.

Jewish bankers flooded Europe with Muslims and America with third-world garbage. Exile as punishment for those who preach sedition should be reinstated within the legal framework of the West. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are death cults originating in the Middle East and totally alien to Europe and its peoples.

One sometimes wonders why the European left gets along so well with Muslims. Why does an often overtly anti-religious movement take the side of a fierce religiosity that seems to oppose almost everything the left has always claimed to stand for? Part of the explanation lies in the fact that Islam and Marxism have a common ideological root: Judaism.

No country is leading its own course in this invasion because it is a UN-led political agenda driven by the Jews and their puppets (politicians). Most people just don't know or understand that this is a political agenda. However, some manage to understand that politicians are deliberately working to import Muslims and replace people, but that's it, they are like a computer that can't work because the program doesn't allow it.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/pardonne-mon-francais-va-te-faire

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Kent, the god of the Israelites can hardly be held up as a paragon of morality. He's been accurately described thusly:

“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”

Guess who wrote that.

BTW, Christianity is a recent ideology. Better schools of morality and ethics have been around for far longer than Christianity. See the dharmas like Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism. The Upanishads were composed from around 4000 years ago; the Buddha lived half a millennia before Jesus.

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Judeo-messianism has been spreading its poisonous message among us for nearly two thousand years. Democratic and communist universalisms are more recent, but they have only reinforced the old Jewish narrative. They are the same ideals.

The transnational, transracial, transsexual, transcultural ideals that these ideologies preach to us (across peoples, races, cultures) and which are the daily sustenance of our schools, in our media, in our popular culture, at our universities, and on our streets, have ended up reducing our biosymbolic identity and ethnic pride to their minimal expression.

Jewish bankers flooded Europe with Muslims and America with third-world garbage. Exile as punishment for those who preach sedition should be reinstated within the legal framework of the West. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are death cults originating in the Middle East and totally alien to Europe and its peoples.

One sometimes wonders why the European left gets along so well with Muslims. Why does an often overtly anti-religious movement take the side of a fierce religiosity that seems to oppose almost everything the left has always claimed to stand for? Part of the explanation lies in the fact that Islam and Marxism have a common ideological root: Judaism.

No country is leading its own course in this invasion because it is a UN-led political agenda driven by the Jews and their puppets (politicians). Most people just don't know or understand that this is a political agenda. However, some manage to understand that politicians are deliberately working to import Muslims and replace people, but that's it, they are like a computer that can't work because the program doesn't allow it.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/pardonne-mon-francais-va-te-faire

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We don't need examples of the most moral beings; the golden rule is to treat others as you would have them treat you. Follow that rule and you will live with a clear heart.

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Yes, morality did indeed evolve. It is part of our evolved human nature (as Darwin first explained in his Descent of Man).

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Someone or something had to explain morality to humanity The Israelites of the Old Testament received a good chunk of the whole Christ completed the moral ethic

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No, we don’t need morality “explained” to us, it is already part of our nature (and we had it long before Judeo-Christianity).

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Judeo-messianism has been spreading its poisonous message among us for nearly two thousand years. Democratic and communist universalisms are more recent, but they have only reinforced the old Jewish narrative. They are the same ideals.

The transnational, transracial, transsexual, transcultural ideals that these ideologies preach to us (across peoples, races, cultures) and which are the daily sustenance of our schools, in our media, in our popular culture, at our universities, and on our streets, have ended up reducing our biosymbolic identity and ethnic pride to their minimal expression.

Jewish bankers flooded Europe with Muslims and America with third-world garbage. Exile as punishment for those who preach sedition should be reinstated within the legal framework of the West. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are death cults originating in the Middle East and totally alien to Europe and its peoples.

One sometimes wonders why the European left gets along so well with Muslims. Why does an often overtly anti-religious movement take the side of a fierce religiosity that seems to oppose almost everything the left has always claimed to stand for? Part of the explanation lies in the fact that Islam and Marxism have a common ideological root: Judaism.

No country is leading its own course in this invasion because it is a UN-led political agenda driven by the Jews and their puppets (politicians). Most people just don't know or understand that this is a political agenda. However, some manage to understand that politicians are deliberately working to import Muslims and replace people, but that's it, they are like a computer that can't work because the program doesn't allow it.

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The Jewish god Yahweh, the locust master, the one who drowned the world?

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Oof. You are so steeped in this cult; I am not entirely convinced that you can get out.

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The Jewish god Yahweh, the locust master, the one who drowned the world.

Middle East death cults.

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Well said, Richard Dawkins

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Judeo-messianism has been spreading its poisonous message among us for nearly two thousand years. Democratic and communist universalisms are more recent, but they have only reinforced the old Jewish narrative. They are the same ideals.

The transnational, transracial, transsexual, transcultural ideals that these ideologies preach to us (beyond peoples, races, cultures) and which are the daily sustenance of our schools, in our media, in our popular culture, at our universities, and on our streets, have ended up reducing our biosymbolic identity and ethnic pride to their minimal expression.

Jewish bankers flooded Europe with Muslims and America with third-world garbage. Exile as punishment for those who preach sedition should be reinstated within the legal framework of the West . . . Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are death cults originating in the Middle East and totally alien to Europe and its peoples.

One sometimes wonders why the European left gets along so well with Muslims. Why does an often overtly anti-religious movement take the side of a fierce religiosity that seems to oppose almost everything the left has always claimed to stand for? Part of the explanation lies in the fact that Islam and Marxism have a common ideological root: Judaism.

No country is leading its own course in this invasion because it is a UN-led political agenda driven by the Jews and their puppets (politicians). Most people just don't know or understand that this is a political agenda. However, some manage to understand that politicians are deliberately working to import Muslims and replace people, but that's it, they are like a computer that can't work because the program doesn't allow it.

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Ayaan was one of those who helped me wake up to the reality of religions. To see her defend one, even if for a pragmatic goal of fighting the worse ideologies threatening civilization, is a big disappointment.

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Judeo-messianism has been spreading its poisonous message among us for nearly two thousand years. Democratic and communist universalisms are more recent, but they have only reinforced the old Jewish narrative. They are the same ideals.

The transnational, transracial, transsexual, transcultural ideals that these ideologies preach to us (across peoples, races, cultures) and which are the daily sustenance of our schools, in our media, in our popular culture, at our universities, and on our streets, have ended up reducing our biosymbolic identity and ethnic pride to their minimal expression.

Jewish bankers flooded Europe with Muslims and America with third-world garbage. Exile as punishment for those who preach sedition should be reinstated within the legal framework of the West. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are death cults originating in the Middle East and totally alien to Europe and its peoples.

One sometimes wonders why the European left gets along so well with Muslims. Why does an often overtly anti-religious movement take the side of a fierce religiosity that seems to oppose almost everything the left has always claimed to stand for? Part of the explanation lies in the fact that Islam and Marxism have a common ideological root: Judaism.

No country is leading its own course in this invasion because it is a UN-led political agenda driven by the Jews and their puppets (politicians). Most people just don't know or understand that this is a political agenda. However, some manage to understand that politicians are deliberately working to import Muslims and replace people, but that's it, they are like a computer that can't work because the program doesn't allow it.

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The truth that not everybody needs a religion to be truthful will always hold true.

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I respect you a lot, Richard. But I'm afraid it seems you don't seem to understand what's happening. The West has built a house on Christianity's foundation and pretends to live without it. This foundation is not comprised of arbitrary propositional beliefs, but rather God crucified for broken people like you and me. That's what this is about. And no, this is not some switching of tribal camps. It is about a personal encounter with something that science doesn't have the tools to tackle.

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The idea that you are broken is one of the most harmful lies Christianity tells. It has destroyed many good people, and allowed for great evil to flourish.

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When the Christianity says we're broken, this is not a club to beat "good" people down. And if you've been hurt by Christians, I am sorry. Many people seem to be confused by the logos of Christianity.

Brokenness is the recognition that we have desires that are warped that harm ourselves and the people around us. This includes everyone, Christians too. The only thing that separates us is the willingness to receive forgiveness. If we honestly look at ourselves, though we have echos of the god, we are not wholly good. There is only one who is wholly good. And if you believe in the idea of good, you might recognize a hierarchy of the good, the peak of which is God himself.

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Not at all condescending to tell Ayaan Hirsi Ali what she believes! What I understand her to be saying is that she embraces the Judeo-Christian narrative as the basis for the best individual life and the best civilization, compared to all other narratives. I take her to be promoting a secular Christianity, akin to secular Judaism, which celebrates the truths of the faith and being part of the faith community, and does not read the scriptures literally. My understanding may be wrong. If I were privileged to be Ayaan’s friend, as Dawkins is, I would ask her for clarification. Perhaps Dawkins will do so at some point, and print a correction to this hit piece.

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Anne, Even so, I would never ask anyone to justify their religious faith to me. I don’t have that right. It is hugely personal.

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Ayaan is not just anyone. She is an intellectual powerhouse who was very public about her belief/faith in atheism, and she was able to articulate it clearly to the world. She has announced a change in her faith to the world, and in her case, it is entirely fair to ask her to articulate her reasons for changing and to explain her new faith to the world.

More generally though, the problem with saying a person’s faith is personal and therefore not open to question is that it allows for a lack of healthy questioning for a foundational aspect of a person’s thinking/worldview. A belief system that is closed to questions for any reason, including labelling it personal, is of limited value or utility and can lead to disastrous outcomes (e.g. jihad).

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Ayaan is open to discuss her conversion. It's her choice.

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Judeo-messianism has been spreading its poisonous message among us for nearly two thousand years. Democratic and communist universalisms are more recent, but they have only reinforced the old Jewish narrative. They are the same ideals.

The transnational, transracial, transsexual, transcultural ideals that these ideologies preach to us (across peoples, races, cultures) and which are the daily sustenance of our schools, in our media, in our popular culture, at our universities, and on our streets, have ended up reducing our biosymbolic identity and ethnic pride to their minimal expression.

Jewish bankers flooded Europe with Muslims and America with third-world garbage. Exile as punishment for those who preach sedition should be reinstated within the legal framework of the West. Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are death cults originating in the Middle East and totally alien to Europe and its peoples.

One sometimes wonders why the European left gets along so well with Muslims. Why does an often overtly anti-religious movement take the side of a fierce religiosity that seems to oppose almost everything the left has always claimed to stand for? Part of the explanation lies in the fact that Islam and Marxism have a common ideological root: Judaism.

No country is leading its own course in this invasion because it is a UN-led political agenda driven by the Jews and their puppets (politicians). Most people just don't know or understand that this is a political agenda. However, some manage to understand that politicians are deliberately working to import Muslims and replace people, but that's it, they are like a computer that can't work because the program doesn't allow it.

https://cwspangle.substack.com/p/pardonne-mon-francais-va-te-faire

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