This episode of The Poetry Of Reality features Jack Symes in conversation with Richard Dawkins, joined by Jessica Frazier speaking on Hinduism, Silvia Jonas speaking on Jewish philosophy, and Richard Swinburne defending Christianity, you can watch it here.
Except Richard Dawkins, no one in this round was able to make any valid, objective argument with respect to the three main questions:
1. Why there’s something rather than nothing?
2. How come the laws of nature are fine tuned for the existence of intelligent life?
3. What’s the origin of life?
But Richard Swinburne really was exceptionally good in making bad arguments:
„[Mono]Theism is a very simple hypothesis. It postulates the existence of only one entity: […] god. And it postulate about him that he’s essentially everlasting and omnipotent. […] So, theism postulates that there are zero limits to god‘s length of life and zero limits to his power. Zero is a simple number and, so, the whole nature of god is a very simple nature.“
There’s obviously zero limits to the stupidity of this argument, which really is just representative for all of what Richard Swinburne’s said. I almost can’t believe that he seriously tries to put the following as a sound argument:
„If something has no limits, it’s simple because no limit is the same as zero limit and zero is a simple number.“
By this logic, you could also argue that infinite complexity has no (zero) limits and therefore, is of simple nature. This is so incredibly dumb, that really only a deluded theist can think it would make any sense!
I disagree. Time and time again, Richard Swinburne’s argument was that because there are things he, perhaps everyone, cannot explain, the only possibility is a divine entity. That argument may have been convincing before the scientific revolution, but given all that we now know about physics and biology, must we still resort to a failed god hypothesis to explain what we don’t now, and may never, know?
Richard Dawkins didn’t need to „nail“ him... Richard Swinburne was able to do this all by himself, by giving some of the most nonsensical arguments I‘ve ever heard!
Symes, a doctor doesn’t necessarily have more meaning in life than anyone else 🤣 with your judgements, prejudices, biases, I’m glad you’re not in charge of human life 🤣
Yuval Harai, Schwab and their ilk would be deemed living a meaningful life, they spend their lives trying to destroy majority of human population, to me their lives are way more meaningless than “kids on their arses playing video games”, I’ll keep the kids and ditch the aforementioned! Humans who do little are better than humans who destroy 😁
Watched an interview with Jack Symes, some of the analogies he gave were similar to how Yuval Harari sees humans 🫤😆
And one question, who decides whose lives are “meaningful” and “meaningless”? Some of us could be judged as leading meaningless lives, but we find meaning in many tiny things, so life is meaningful to that individual!
Except Richard Dawkins, no one in this round was able to make any valid, objective argument with respect to the three main questions:
1. Why there’s something rather than nothing?
2. How come the laws of nature are fine tuned for the existence of intelligent life?
3. What’s the origin of life?
But Richard Swinburne really was exceptionally good in making bad arguments:
„[Mono]Theism is a very simple hypothesis. It postulates the existence of only one entity: […] god. And it postulate about him that he’s essentially everlasting and omnipotent. […] So, theism postulates that there are zero limits to god‘s length of life and zero limits to his power. Zero is a simple number and, so, the whole nature of god is a very simple nature.“
There’s obviously zero limits to the stupidity of this argument, which really is just representative for all of what Richard Swinburne’s said. I almost can’t believe that he seriously tries to put the following as a sound argument:
„If something has no limits, it’s simple because no limit is the same as zero limit and zero is a simple number.“
By this logic, you could also argue that infinite complexity has no (zero) limits and therefore, is of simple nature. This is so incredibly dumb, that really only a deluded theist can think it would make any sense!
EVOLUTION IS HETEROSEXUAL.
RELIGIOUS FAGGOTS ARE INSANE.
This appears to be a rebroadcast of the August 16th episode Unlike wine, . . .
I think Richard Swinburne actually won this debate. I was disappointed in Dawkins inability to nail him...
I disagree. Time and time again, Richard Swinburne’s argument was that because there are things he, perhaps everyone, cannot explain, the only possibility is a divine entity. That argument may have been convincing before the scientific revolution, but given all that we now know about physics and biology, must we still resort to a failed god hypothesis to explain what we don’t now, and may never, know?
Richard Dawkins didn’t need to „nail“ him... Richard Swinburne was able to do this all by himself, by giving some of the most nonsensical arguments I‘ve ever heard!
Symes, a doctor doesn’t necessarily have more meaning in life than anyone else 🤣 with your judgements, prejudices, biases, I’m glad you’re not in charge of human life 🤣
Yuval Harai, Schwab and their ilk would be deemed living a meaningful life, they spend their lives trying to destroy majority of human population, to me their lives are way more meaningless than “kids on their arses playing video games”, I’ll keep the kids and ditch the aforementioned! Humans who do little are better than humans who destroy 😁
Watched an interview with Jack Symes, some of the analogies he gave were similar to how Yuval Harari sees humans 🫤😆
And one question, who decides whose lives are “meaningful” and “meaningless”? Some of us could be judged as leading meaningless lives, but we find meaning in many tiny things, so life is meaningful to that individual!